Duke Mtambo talks with Jakub Simek about his article on "The Network State". Balaji Srinivasan argues that starting new countries is now possible, preferable, and profitable, and he explains his approach of "cloud-first, land-last, but not land never." In his book, "The Network State," Srinivasan defines a network state as a social network with a moral innovation, national consciousness, collective action, and an integrated cryptocurrency, among other features, and outlines a gradualist bottom-up approach to creating new digitally-first countries that can be launched by anyone with a laptop.

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