This is the podcast version of my second YouTube discussion with experts on the dairy and palm issue. I visit with a dairy farmer (Andrew Campbell), a dairy nutritionist (Mike Steele), and a veterinarian (Stephen LeBlanc) about what is happening, what we need to understand better, and where we go from here. You can also see the video version of the discussion if you prefer that to a podcast (https://youtu.be/c_h7zsIpQXc).