Lucy welcomes Dakota Lee, Wake Forest University graduate and RUF intern, to the podcast for a follow-up conversation. In this episode, Lucy and Dakota dive into the focus of his podcast, The Phd’s of Company: the interplay between mental health and comedy. They begin by discussing the genesis of his podcast. Dakota then describes several scenes in the Bible in which he finds irony and humor, as they discuss the ability to find laughter in all things. Lucy and Dakota talk over the idea of secular versus christian areas of life and culture, as they arrive at the topic of worldview and what it means to see the world through a Christian worldview. They also explore the kingdom value of achieving freedom and catharsis through revealing truth, and the power that comedy holds to do such. They close by discussing how Jesus is the Ultimate Counselor, and that no amount of counseling or therapy can replace a relationship with Jesus.