Michael McGovern and Damon Dillard discuss business, mindset, and the art of the game on the Reckless CEO Podcast. Damon is an Elevated Income Academy coach, insurance specialist, and man of God. He explains that he had hoop dreams as a kid but realized there were too many guys who were taller and more athletic than him, so he decided to focus on his communication skills instead. Michael praises Damon for his it factor and charisma, and the conversation quickly jumps into talking about business. Damon shares his experience and knowledge, and the two discuss sales, mindset, and the importance of having a passion for what you do. They also talk about the soft bank and how to make sure one's voice is heard. The conversation is both insightful and inspiring, and the two men clearly have an easy rapport and a shared appreciation for the art of business. The speaker is a man who has gone from humble beginnings to success. He was raised with the same advice as many others, to go to school and get good grades, but he realized that school wasn't for him and so he graduated high school with a 1.7 GPA. He then went to college to play basketball and graduated as a sophomore. He emphasizes that he is no different from anyone else and that most people are a lot better than he was. He encourages people to follow their dreams, no matter how hard it may seem. The speaker and his interviewer are discussing the 40 40 40 plan, which involves working forty years for forty hours a week and then retiring. They are both from the Midwest and had to find their own paths in life. The speaker was born in Cleveland and moved to Columbus when he was five. He went to two years of junior college and then two years at Capitol University and played college basketball, though he had to do his own recruiting. The interviewer played junior hockey in Boston, got hurt, and ended up playing in the Southern Pro Hockey League, then moved to Columbus. He worked in the coal mine and a gas plant before transitioning to Ohio. They both agree that the 40 40 40 plan is no longer a viable option, and they had to find their own paths to success. The conversation between two friends centered around the idea of parents and their influence on a child's growth. One friend shared how his father's encouragement to be a dreamer allowed him to keep his light shining. The other friend added that our conditioning starts with our environment, and that no matter who you are, God knows you before you are born. He believes that this means his parents didn't know what he was going to be like, even though they are lighter than he is. The conversation concluded with the idea that parents have an important role in their children's development.

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