January 14, 2025 ~ Lucy Ann Lance talks with Dan Chlebos, Retired Police Chief / Asst. Prof., Justice & Public Policy and Chris Hager, Operations Officer, Central Intelligence Agency. The discussion centers on the challenges faced by intelligence agencies like the CIA and FBI in countering terrorism and preventing attacks, particularly those carried out by “lone wolf” individuals. Retired CIA operative Chris Hager reflects on his career, emphasizing the difficulties of inter-agency communication and collaboration, especially between the CIA’s overseas intelligence focus and the FBI’s domestic counterterrorism role.