Steven Carrillo shot and killed two law officers in 2020 in an attempt to incite a second American Civil War. Journalist, lawyer, and OSINT instructor Gisela Pérez de Acha joins the show to talk about her work in uncovering his motives, his role in the Boogaloo movement, and how open-source intelligence can track down networks of extremists who use the internet to radicalize others.

You can find Gisela’s story discussed in this episode here: 

https://www.propublica.org/article/i-felt-hate-more-than-anything-how-an-active-duty-airman-tried-to-start-a-civil-war

You can find Gisela’s website here: https://www.giselaperezdeacha.com/

You can follow her on Twitter: https://twitter.com/giselilla

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