In this episode, Marianne and Anna, the creator of The_Real_Kiz_Podcast, talk about courage, authenticity, and the pressure many dancers feel to stay silent. They discuss why people avoid speaking publicly, how dance can become an unhealthy single source of identity, and what it looks like to choose a community with more integrity.
This conversation is ultimately about using your voice, choosing your people, and making dance a part of life rather than your whole life.
Main Topics
- Courage, authenticity, and speaking up in dance communities
- How talent can be valued more than character in dance scenes
- Belonging, validation, and the desire to fit in with the “cool group”
- Dance as one source of joy, not the only source of identity
- How The_Real_Kiz_ Podcast began and why Anna created it
- Justice, responsibility, and speaking up for others
- Choosing events, teachers, and communities with intention
Timestamps
(00:00) Introduction
(05:26) Belonging, introversion, and the pressure to fit in
(08:44) Character, commitment, and the people outside the spotlight
(10:45) Anna’s turning point
(12:24) Dance as one source of validation, not the only source
(14:16) How The_Real_Kiz_Podcast began
(18:47) Why Anna talks about the topics that nobody speak about
(32:58) The grass is greener where you water it
(36:26) Choosing events and communities intentionally
(43:03) Bringing your own activities to festivals to connect outside dance
(48:15) Using your voice to challenge harmful bookings and support others
(49:50) Closing
Connect with Anna and her Podcast:
Anna is a passionate dancer and the creator of The_Real_Kiz_Podcast. She shares honest, thoughtful conversations about authenticity, community, and the realities of dance culture, with a focus on speaking up, choosing integrity, and building healthier connections both on and off the dance floor.
- The Real_Kiz_Podcast:
- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5aOB7HhEsdCdUnYymSXmZ5
- Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@therealkizpodcast
- Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the_real_kiz_podcast/
- The Kiz Mentorship Project:
- Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the_kiz_mentorship_project/?hl=en
Connect with Marianne:
- Instagram: @danceofrelationship
- Website: https://www.mariannejost.com/en
Dancing through Love and Life - your Podcast from Marianne Jost about dance, love and relationships, and the journey of life.
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