Host Nate Tiessen is joined by guest Joe Kraftchick to discuss their preferred biblical dinner companions (1:03) Nebuchadnezzar's response to a bad dream (4:00), Babylonian secret service coming for the Israelites (9:07), Psalm of Daniel (12:38), 4 kingdoms (22:11), a new kind of kingdom (26:46), and how the text oddly switches languages mid-verse (34:42). Then Nate and Joe ponder contemporary power dynamics (38:54), the perils of applying Daniel's dream interpretation to current kingdoms (42:07), what follow-up question to ask Daniel (43:41), and how impressive human projects fall short (45:36).