Host Nate Tiessen is joined by guest Jodie Smith to discuss a mandatory pledge of allegiance (6:46), Israelite civil disobedience (9:26), theological trash talk (14:30), Nebuchadnezzar's brain and behavior (18:43), divine revelation within fire (24:30), test of obedience (32:05), and chapter 3 as great storytelling (34:52). Then Nate and Jodie discuss the golden statues of today (39:37), martyrdom (43:19), church and storytelling (46:39), and each give one sentence of theology (49:21).