Actor, presenter and endurance athlete Daniel MacPherson joins Jermaine for a conversation about ambition, purpose, rejection and what it takes to keep believing in yourself over a 28-year career.

While discussing his new Stan Original film Beast, Daniel opens up about the lessons he's learned from decades in the entertainment industry, why he stopped equating success with being busy, the reality of hearing "no" more often than "yes", and how he learned to separate ambition from attachment to outcomes.

We also explore fatherhood, discipline, identity, the pursuit of excellence, and what he's most willing to fight for at this stage of his life.

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