This week, we’ve got Danny van Leeuwen, Health Hats himself! We met up at the Patient Centered Clinical Decision Support Learning Network annual meeting (mouthful, but it’s healthcare, and healthcare loves long and complicated), where Danny spoke about the patient perspective on pain management, and life in general, for folks dealing with chronic conditions.

Full show notes and links here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/danny-van-my-off-22139401