Episode 3 hails from Winchester, Virginia, where I made the second stop of the Musings Tour 2018 to do some strongman activities, eat, and podcast with Jacob Manley.

For the first twenty minutes or so Jake and I get into the ins and outs of what led him to co-host his own podcast The Movement Docs, as well as a healthy dosage of pop culture references because we’re both huge nerds. Afterwards we discussed fears that have surround his life as a dilated cardiomyopathy patient (don’t worry we get into exactly what that means in the podcast), what it’s like to have a pacemaker and be an amateur strongman competitor, patient empathy, family struggles, and how each have shaped his scope of how he treats and communicates with patients.