Darren Magarro is the founder of DSM, an independent agency built through nearly two decades of growth, hard lessons, and real relationships. His work centers on leadership, trust, and building teams that last beyond any single phase of a business.

In this episode, Drew and Darren talk about what it looks like to grow up as a leader. They get into mentorship, imposter syndrome, learning when to step back, and why building the right relationships matters more than control or ego. Darren opens up about the realities of running a business through different seasons of life, becoming a parent, and learning how to lead people with patience, humility, and perspective.

This conversation is exactly what Make Cool Sh*t is about. It is about long-term thinking, accountability, and understanding that real leadership is built through trust, not authority. If you are a founder, creative, or operator navigating growth, responsibility, and change, this episode will resonate.

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