Safear Ness interviews Tamara Nopper while reflecting on crime , punishment, and harm. Listen in as Tamara Nopper explains the current use of "crime" data collection in our understanding in the criminal punishment system. They continue is how that data is impacted by the manufacturing of crimes through moralism, legalism and political desire. Finishing off imagining abolitionist futures while considering violence vs harm vs legally a crime and how to navigate the spaces when harm and violence collide

2:46 Intro

3:45 What is crime

19:03 History of data collection and datasets

27:39 Political desire In data

37:00 The National Crime Victimization Survey

46:08 Cooreelation between police defunding and gun violence/ homicide

48:00 Abolitionist futures