Most budding songwriters dream of their first composition becoming a global success. Usually it remains a dream. For Dave Bilbrough, Abba Father became a giant step into international music-writing recognition. Now, four decades in full-time Christian ministry and numerous albums later, he is recognised as one of Britain's foremost worship leaders and songwriters. 

The guys talk about Dave's beginnings, playing the Royal Albert Hall, a bizarre phone call with Spike Milligan,  performing in abattoirs and boxing rings and turning down a meeting with U2. It's another belting edition.

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