In today's episode, Thomas talks with Dave Bookbinder, a business valuation expert, author of two books, and the host of the 'Behind the Numbers' podcast and TV show. Dave emphasizes that employees are not an expense but assets, and unpacks the implications for business leaders. Sharing how the value of human capital is traditionally determined, he discusses best practices to increase enterprise value and explains why culture, engagement, and appreciation are critical to maximize the return on individuals. And lastly, he describes how the transition to a knowledge economy requires a different approach to intangibles. To learn more about Dave and his work, visit https://www.newroi.com or  @TheDaveBookbinder .