In this episode, Hisham is joined by Dave Spero, President of the Professional Aviation Safety Specialists (PASS) union, for a candid conversation about labor leadership, trust, and advocacy. Dave shares his journey, what it means to represent the aviation safety workforce, and how strong, principled labor leadership protects both workers and the public they serve.

This episode offers a clear, grounded look at leadership from the labor perspective, and why putting people first is always a good decision.