Norv and Stephanie sit down with Dave Wannstedt to trace a 40-year friendship from USC to the Cowboys to Miami, and to explain what truly drives winning. We talk owners, culture, defense, Ricky Williams, and why players matter more than plays.

• USC beginnings and a Rose Bowl turning point
• Dallas reunion and the “Corvette interview” hire
• Why the Netflix doc missed the football
• The defense that won without Pro Bowlers
• How owners shape teams and seasons
• Washington, Chicago, and Miami case studies
• Ricky Williams stories and run-game identity
• First-year head coach realities and patience
• Hiring trends, criteria, and overhype
• Players over plays and “don’t get bored”
• Lifelong coaching bonds and lessons

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Intro and outro music by Stephen Ray

This podcast was recorded at The Podcast Place.

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