Matt Crawford speaks with Software Engineer, technologist and author David Auerbach about his book, Meganets: How Digital Forces Beyond Our Control Commandeer Our Daily Lives and Inner Realities. As we increasingly rely on and integrate our society, culture, politics and finances within a hyper-networked fabric, Auerbach explains how billions of people interacting creating massive amounts of data have produced a system that operates beyond the control of individuals, companies and the governments that created them, in turn skewing our very realities. David and I discuss how this occurred and what we can do to stem the tide and have a positive influence on these systems.