David R. Hawkins, M.D. PhD is a renowned psychiatrist, physician, and pioneer in the fields of consciousness research and spirituality. In this fascinating interview, Dr. Hawkins and Kelly discuss: The pitfalls of the Spiritual Ego and being "holier than thou." How war provides a rare opportunity for spiritual evolution; how to begin dismantling the trappings of the ego to raise your level of consciousness; how death is pre-determined at the time of birth; and that even a momentary awareness of divinity can forever change your life.