Ever wondered what it’s like to be a minister in the UK government?

Join Tom Brown as he sits down with David TC Davies, former Secretary of State for Wales (2022–2024), for a candid conversation about life as a minister.

David takes us behind the scenes, sharing his first encounters with civil servants and revealing the pivotal role the Treasury plays on the relationships with the civil service.

He also compares his private sector experience with policy-making and suggests ways to make ministers more efficient.

Plus, David reveals some ministerial stories about Amber Rudd’s controversial resignation, Boris Johnson’s No.10 and Rishi Sunak’s hawk-eye for detail.

You can order Tom’s new book, The Mind of the Minister: Restoring trust between ministers and civil servants today, out now.

Music: Galactic Rap Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com). Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License. http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/