Welcome to the "People Always, Patients Sometimes" podcast, a production of Spencer Health Solutions. Healthcare has come to a crossroads and it's time to start listening to new ideas that challenge our "always done it that way" thinking. We hope you enjoy our conversations with the disruptors, innovators and transformers in clinical trials and healthcare.

In this episode, we have a conversation with Dr. David Zaas, President of Duke Raleigh Hospital. Shortly after he gave a keynote at a meeting of the ACRP, the Association of Clinical Research Professionals, he spoke with me about his experience as both a patient and a participant in a clinical trial when he discovered that he had Leukemia.

Our conversation also includes his thoughts on compassion as a trainable skill for healthcare professionals and the need for patients to be presented with all options so they can decide what is their best care with their healthcare professional. I hope you enjoy this episode of the "People Always, Patients Sometimes" podcast.