In this episode of Gospel for Life, host Darryl Dash talks with guest Karl Vaters, an experienced small church pastor and author of "De-sizing the Church." They emphasize the need to shift our ministry focus from numerical growth to discipleship, underscoring Jesus' teachings on making disciples.

The episode encourages pastors dealing with growth pressures, highlighting the importance of being faithful and making an impact in their congregations, no matter their size.

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