I speak to councillor, therapist and wizard, Carole Coupe. I thank her for all the help she has given me since I first met her. We speak about our dead parents; Carole tells me how different her experiences with her mum and dad dying were. We speak about the difficult ‘welcome’ her black, visually impaired father (Carl Buckley) with £5.00 in his pocket received 70 years ago and the rich life he built despite this. This snappy dresser also imparted some sound advice as his parting words to his grandsons