Ayesha Hazarika is joined by UnHerd columnist and author, James Bloodworth, and Polly Mackenzie, Director of Demos think tank.

This week, the panel discuss UnHerd's latest audio documentary, presented by James Bloodworth: 'How dead-end jobs killed small-town pride'. The documentary looks at the old industrial town of Rugeley and explores what can be done to help Rugeley and similar forgotten towns.

The panel also discuss their heroes of the week, the Thai cave rescue team and their villain, Boris Johnson.