This week, Julie tells the story of Brian Koberger and the November 2022 murders of four University of Idaho students, following his arrest and trial. Julie dives into the details of the case while Laurie adds commentary and opinions on the case. They both examine the evidence that linked him to the crime, discuss his background and academic focus in criminology, and note the unanswered questions around motive.

The episode also explores how diagnoses like autism or OCD were presented during the case, contrasts emotional reactions and possible antisocial traits, and reflects on why labeling can distract from understanding violent behavior and responsibility.