Dean Radin  is a parapsychology researcher. He has been Senior Scientist at the Institute of Noetic Sciences (IONS), and is, among other things, also a book author. His latest book is called 'Real Magic'. In this conversation Mr. Radin and I are talking about Psy-phaenomenons, magic, methods of measuring, gnosis, wisdom traditions, DMT, Leary and much more ... enjoy