Cam and Elle discuss fights.

Are they a good sign? Are they necessary? How do we fight well? 👀

We go particularly hard about the role of growth vs fixed mindsets in romance… because The Growth Gap has ended many couples, usually years down the line.

Fun news: We're each launching communities for men and women to provide a lifeline to hope and good relationship advice. (Who knows, we may even matchmake some folks!) This is open to both single and taken friends, because we never stop dating our lover. We kick off in January 2025; sign ups found in the links below.

Thank you for listening. Feel free to DM us, we may even feature your question or situation in an upcoming Q&A episode. 👀

Our communities:

✨ Elle’s dating community for women:⁠ ⁠https://stan.store/ellebeecher⁠⁠ 

✨ Cam’s dating community for men:⁠ ⁠https://stan.store/thecameronhogan⁠⁠ 

✨ Our free daily gratitude community to embrace “feel good” emotions:⁠ ⁠https://www.theboardwalks.com/great-morning⁠⁠ 

✨ Weekly walks for meaningful conversations: www.theboardwalks.com 

More from us:

✨ Listen on Spotify, Apple, & all platforms: ⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/listenbeforelove⁠ 

✨ Listen Before Love youtube:⁠ ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@ElleBeecher⁠⁠ 

✨ Elle’s twitter:⁠ ⁠https://x.com/ellebeecher⁠⁠ 

✨ Cam’s twitter:⁠ ⁠https://x.com/thecameronhogan⁠⁠ ⁠⁠ 

Who are these people? 👀

⁠⁠Cameron Hogan⁠⁠ is an intuitive healer who’s coached dozens of high-performers to shed their limiting beliefs and awaken. Cameron also writes (he published 100⁠ ⁠newsletters⁠⁠ in 100 days!), hosts men’s circles and retreats for men, plays NBA2K, speaks at conferences, and hosts a daily gratitude call alongside Elle called⁠ ⁠Great Morning⁠⁠.

⁠⁠Elle Beecher⁠⁠ helps people build confidence, attract love, and find soul-nourishing community. Elle ⁠⁠writes⁠⁠ every day, hosts a⁠ ⁠weekly walk⁠⁠ for meaningful conversations in Austin (130 so far), hosts a daily⁠ gratitude call⁠⁠ alongside Cam (115 so far), and consults companies on culture and community building. Elle leads 4 communities – for women in love, deep talk lovers, and spiritual seekers. Elle worked at Meta for 7 years and was named Forbes 30 Under 30 for her work with⁠ ⁠The Board Walks⁠⁠.

💌 CHAPTERS

00:00 Welcome Back & Let’s Talk About Fighting

02:18 Elle and Cam Hear A Fight

07:09 Our Relationship & Analyzing The Fight

11:51 Is Fighting Necessary?

13:09 Why Don’t We Fight?

18:27 Don’t Settle, Fight Less

21:47 Healthy Tension vs Incompatibility

25:59 Growth Mindset

29:47 Ways to Tell If Someone Is Growth Minded

34:42 The Growth Gap

38:57 Examples From Our Relationship

46:29 Tell The Truth

49:53 The Magic Bullet

54:00 New Goodies For You