In this episode of Confessions of a Pastor, Pastors Keith and Kara talk candidly about death and life through the Gospel of John, the realities of church leadership, and the moments that shape faith along the way.

From drinks of choice to the recent Bethel Church scandal, they reflect on navigating truth, accountability, and grace when the church feels complicated. The conversation also celebrates Journey Church in Bend’s 16th birthday and highlights voices like Jonathan Traylor, pointing back to the hope found in Jesus.

Honest. Unfiltered. And grounded in the invitation to move from death to life.