In Episode 4 of MSP Insider, host Jeffrey Newton sits down with Matt Lee for an unflinching look at the future of managed services and why many MSPs won't survive the coming changes. As an industry veteran and cybersecurity expert, Matt delivers a powerful wake-up call about the critical challenges facing MSPs in 2025 and beyond.

This episode tackles tough questions about why MSPs must move beyond selling tools to delivering provable outcomes, the dangers of ignoring foundational security practices, and how private equity's growing influence will reshape the industry landscape. Matt delivers practical insights about starting where you are, being honest about organizational weaknesses, and the importance of continuous improvement in surviving the industry's inevitable consolidation.

Key Topics Covered:

• Why most MSPs aren't ready for coming compliance and regulatory changes
• The critical importance of proving historical security controls
• How private equity will drive industry consolidation
• Practical steps for surviving the "year of the haves and have-nots"

Don't miss this compelling conversation about why "ignorant people die ignorantly" and what MSPs must do now to avoid being part of the coming industry shakeout.

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