Hunt and Al have a deep conversation. Initially, we discuss John B. Calhoun's famous rodent society experiment, questioning the author's agenda. We then branch off to talk about black holes, religious considerations, and trips - both psychedelic and geographic. Show notes... (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1644264/) ... (https://youtu.be/NgGLFozNM2o) .