The Guys Like Us is joined with Joshua Porter who is an author and pastor. In this episode we talk about the importance of dying to self as a Christian disciple. The path is not a climb of ascent through might and willpower. But rather, laying down performance and self-help for a deep reliance and trust in the good news of Jesus. Josh's book How to Die: Chaos, Mortality, and the Scandal of Christian Discipleship can be found where books are sold.