<p>For a special holiday episode, Joel and Ivan review the unique Datil beer from Motorworks Brewing while doing a debate on whether social media is helping or hurting the reptile hobby. </p>

For a special holiday episode, Joel and Ivan review the unique Datil beer from Motorworks Brewing while doing a debate on whether social media is helping or hurting the reptile hobby.

Debatable Datil

Shells and Hops is a podcast for beer reviews and turtle and tortoise descriptions and information. We also aim to "pair" turtles with the beer we are reviewing. This provides an entertaining, if not odd, view at two very different interests.

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Debatable Datil

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