David and Katie take a look at Fine Gael’s Helen McEntee and Fianna Fail’s Jim O'Callaghan's shade-throwing after he suggested she took his ideas. And as Katie prepares to host Upfront's ten-way debate, the pod invited in Head of Training at the Communications Clinic Lorcan Nyhan to get an insight into how politicians themselves gear up for them.

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