In this episode, Sara Stevenson welcomes Professor Paul Copan and Pastor Dan Lacich to the discussion. Many people feel frustrated when they are engaging in an ethical conversation, the debate never seems to make progress beyond 'stalemate' and rarely ends with a positive outcome. Paul, Dan and Sara remind of the importance to analyse the underlying moral worldview and moral framework in order to assess the quality of ethical arguments in applied ethics. Which worldview makes most sense of moral data?