On this Thanksgiving edition, we take a slight departure from our usual guests, Kathy interviews a woman in media just a different side - books - cookbooks to be exact! Deborah Johnson is a cookbook author and culinary enthusiast based outside Dallas, Texas. She recently celebrated the publication of her first cookbook, "On Rising: Recipes and Rituals for Joyful Mornings". As a cook and baker herself, Kathy and Deborah delve into the idea of food as more than just well-seasoned hospitality.