Performer and theatre maker Deborah Williams doesn't always fit the institutional definitions of diversity. There were categories for Disabled Artists, which were mostly White or categories for Black Artists, that were not for Disabled people. But there were no spaces to be both a Black and a Disabled Artist. When Deborah decided to take a job at the Arts Council England, it became clear to her that the sector didn't understand diversity meant. So she set about making change, introducing groundbreaking programs that have gained international recognition. Deborah approaches diversity as an agenda - rather than an issue or problem.