The guys are hanging out at the cigar shop (that's what the background noise is talking about a frustrating article that got a lot of play this week. Men Prefer Debt-Free Virgins Without Tattoos got a lot of play on the interwebs and created some good conversations. Joe and Jimmy thought the article downplayed redemption, idolized marriage, and implied that women are generally dumb and helpless. What do Christian men find attractive in a woman? Are all women called to marriage? How do Christians, even those in the Reformed tradition, often misunderstand women in the church? How does the church neglect women in the church? Lets us know what you think about all this, and if the guys were too hard on the author.

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