In this episode, we dive into the recent Oval Office meeting between former U.S. President Donald Trump and South African President Cyril Ramaphosa — where Trump reignited the explosive and misleading claim of a “white genocide” targeting rural Afrikaner farmers. Trump showcased videos and images that fact-checkers quickly debunked, but where did this rumor originate — and what’s the real story behind it?

To help untangle fact from fiction, I’m joined by Gareth Newham, Head of Justice and Violence Prevention at the Institute for Security Studies. Together, we break down the dangerous myth of white genocide and explore the deeper, complex challenges South Africa faces today. We also examine the enduring legacy of apartheid and how it fuels the narratives around land, race, and violence.