If you're a self-taught designer, the chances are very high that your path began with a torrented copy of Illustrator or Photoshop. And, even if you received formal training at an art school, graphic design is a frequent choice for it's relative practicality and market demand. However, as most people jump into the wonderful world of advertising and art direction, they mind find a different reality than they once imagined as a teenager. 

In order to demystify the grey area between the way projects are handled as an independent illustrator as opposed to a graphic designer, we bring in Jocelyn Tsaih to offer a first-person account of what she's experienced in both worlds. As a Taiwan-born, Shanghai-raised visual artist currently based out of Oakland, California, Jocelyn spent the early days of her career in New York as a graduate of SVA's graphic design program.

Now practicing illustration full-time, Jocelyn has secured work, commissions, jobs, and more from clients including: NYT, Airbnb, Facebook, Stanford Business School, Soho House, Nickelodeon, and more. For roughly an hour, Justin and Jocelyn tackle questions that include: 

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