Communicating the fundamentals of privacy and security is a difficult task, but no more so than helping security and privacy professionals with the fundamentals of communication. In her role at Uber, Melanie Ensign is responsible for both of those tasks, helping customers and journalists understand the company's security and privacy principles, while also working with executives, engineers, and others inside Uber to help them understand the way those principles are communicated externally. It's a long way from the career as a shark researcher Melanie envisioned for herself as a teenager, but the two paths have more in common than you might imagine. She joins Dennis Fisher to talk about her marine biology aspirations and the challenges and rewards she's found in her time in the security field.

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