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  • Modernizing Retirement: Tech, Data, and Wealth Convergence

    The retirement industry is entering a new phase of innovation—and the old playbook isn’t working anymore.

    Technology is changing how retirement platforms are built, how record keepers modernize legacy systems, and how advisors connect retirement planning with wealth management. Instead of massive platform overhauls, the industry is shifting toward modular modernization, orchestration platforms, and embedded retirement infrastructure.

    In this conversation, Will Prest sits down with Mahesh Natarajan, Chief Revenue Officer at Congruent Solutions, to unpack the forces reshaping the retirement ecosystem—from the rise of retire-tech startups to the role AI will play in operational efficiency and participant outcomes.

    They explore how record keepers are modernizing without replacing legacy systems, why retirement and wealth management are converging faster than expected, and what embedded finance means for the future of retirement platforms.

    The discussion also dives into retirement income solutions, enterprise technology strategy, and the growing role of AI in improving plan administration, data workflows, and participant experiences.

    For founders, advisors, and retirement industry leaders, this conversation offers a clear view of where the industry is heading—and how to position for the next wave of growth.

    Key Discussion Points

    00:55 – Mahesh Natarajan’s background and industry perspective

    02:11 – What it means to be a “techno-business leader”
    03:49 – Congruent Solutions and its role in the retirement ecosystem
    05:07 – The rise of orchestration platforms in retirement technology
    07:36 – Why record keepers are shifting to modular modernization
    10:00 – How firms prioritize modernization initiatives
    13:03 – Micro-transformation strategies for large enterprises
    14:40 – Retirement income and the decumulation opportunity
    18:33 – The convergence of retirement and wealth management
    21:20 – Why data ownership will shape advisor relationships
    26:00 – Build vs. buy vs. partner in enterprise technology strategy
    29:00 – Why large enterprises struggle to innovate quickly
    31:40 – The growth of retire-tech startups and partnerships
    35:00 – Embedded retirement and new growth rails
    39:26 – How TPAs and record keepers are evolving
    43:00 – Where AI will actually impact retirement operations
    47:00 – Enterprise AI, infrastructure, and industry implications
    50:00 – Personalization at scale and the future of financial wellness
    55:12 – Advice for retirement-tech founders
    56:16 – Industry risks and opportunities ahead

     

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    #RetirementIndustry #Fintech #RetirementPlanning #AIinFinance #WealthManagement #FintechInnovation #RetirementTech #EmbeddedFinance #FinancialServices #DecodingGrowth

    59 min
  • The Hidden Intelligence in Plan Documents: Inside PlanPort

    Plan documents hold more intelligence than most people realize—if you know how to unlock it.

    In this episode of Decoding Growth, we explore how PlanPort uncovers the hidden logic, rules, and decisions embedded in SPDs, amendments, and other complex plan materials. Founder David Levine breaks down how AI can interpret dense plan language, reduce manual review time, and support TPAs, record keepers, and advisors with greater accuracy and consistency.

    We dive into the role of responsible AI, why human oversight still matters, and how PlanPort blends automation with expert judgment to support retirement service professionals at scale. From legacy system challenges to real operational use cases, this conversation reveals how AI can transform workflows without replacing the people behind them.

    Listen to learn how PlanPort is redefining intelligence within plan documents—and why it matters for the future of retirement services.

    Key Discussion Points

    00:00 Introduction

    00:23 Meet Your Host: Will Press
    01:09 Guest Introduction: David Levine
    02:28 The Origin of PlanPort
    03:54 Innovations in the Retirement Industry
    05:46 Real Use Cases of PlanPort
    14:14 Accuracy and Flexibility in AI
    25:34 Industry Staffing Challenges
    29:26 Why Human Oversight Matters
    33:17 PlanPort’s Middleware Approach
    36:41 Advice for New Ventures
    45:36 Customer Feedback & Iteration
    50:47 Future Trends & Final Thoughts
    54:19 Closing Remarks

     

    #PlanPort #FinTech #RetirementServices #AI #ArtificialIntelligence

    #DocumentAutomation #TPA #Recordkeepers #FinancialAdvisors
    #B2BTech #RetirementTech #HumanInTheLoop #DecodingGrowth #Podcast

    56 min
  • The Hidden Intelligence in Plan Documents: Inside PlanPort

    Plan documents hold more intelligence than most people realize—if you know how to unlock it.


    In this episode of Decoding Growth, we explore how PlanPort uncovers the hidden logic, rules, and decisions embedded in SPDs, amendments, and other complex plan materials. Founder David Levine breaks down how AI can interpret dense plan language, reduce manual review time, and support TPAs, record keepers, and advisors with greater accuracy and consistency.


    We dive into the role of responsible AI, why human oversight still matters, and how PlanPort blends automation with expert judgment to support retirement service professionals at scale. From legacy system challenges to real operational use cases, this conversation reveals how AI can transform workflows without replacing the people behind them.


    ▶️ Watch to learn how PlanPort is redefining intelligence within plan documents—and why it matters for the future of retirement services.


    ⏱ Chapters

    00:00 Introduction

    00:23 Meet Your Host: Will Press

    01:09 Guest Introduction: David Levine

    02:28 The Origin of PlanPort

    03:54 Innovations in the Retirement Industry

    05:46 Real Use Cases of PlanPort

    14:14 Accuracy and Flexibility in AI

    25:34 Industry Staffing Challenges

    29:26 Why Human Oversight Matters

    33:17 PlanPort’s Middleware Approach

    36:41 Advice for New Ventures

    45:36 Customer Feedback & Iteration

    50:47 Future Trends & Final Thoughts

    54:19 Closing Remarks


    #PlanPort #FinTech #RetirementServices #AI #ArtificialIntelligence

    #DocumentAutomation #TPA #Recordkeepers #FinancialAdvisors

    #B2BTech #RetirementTech #HumanInTheLoop #DecodingGrowth #Podcast

    56 min
  • Bridging the Gap: Lori Hardwick on Connecting Wealth and Retirement

    The retirement industry keeps talking about convergence.


    Lori Hardwick breaks down what it actually takes to make it real.


    This conversation cuts straight into the structural issues—America’s savings gap, advisor confidence, platform integrations, valuation pressures, and the technology finally capable of scaling access. Lori brings decades of experience as an operator, board member, and founder to explain why this moment is different, what’s newly possible, and where firms are still holding themselves back.


    You will hear what most leaders learn only after expensive trial and error:

    • 00:00 — The real retirement access crisis in America
    • 04:20 — The savings gap, Social Security challenges & bipartisan urgency
    • 08:45 — Why wealth advisors hesitate: risk, regulation & confidence
    • 12:30 — The time-management dilemma: 25 employees, one advisor
    • 15:50 — The Sater model: specialists, referrals & shared revenue
    • 20:55 — Swell’s turnkey infrastructure & chatbot-powered onboarding
    • 25:10 — Tech rails: the new path from payroll → recordkeeper → asset mgmt
    • 29:35 — Emergency savings, student-loan matching & plan design innovation
    • 34:18 — What retirement can learn from wealth—and vice versa
    • 37:45 — Where retire-tech platforms can plug in
    • 41:20 — Early-stage founders vs. enterprise due diligence reality
    • 45:12 — Riding the rails: integrations with Orion, InvestNet, Pershing
    • 49:05 — Founder traits: execution vs. ideas
    • 53:25 — Build, buy, or partner? Lori’s framework from inside the big firms
    • 56:12 — The legacy tech debt problem nobody wants to talk about
    • 01:00:40 — How firms can modernize without breaking the enterprise
    • 01:03:50 — Final challenge: who will actually bridge the gap?

    This isn’t industry commentary.


    It’s a strategic field guide for enterprises, advisors, founders, and retirement innovators who want to bridge the gap without burning years—or budgets—doing it the hard way.


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    #RetirementTech #WealthManagement #Fintech #FinancialInnovation #AdvisorGrowth #DigitalTransformation #FutureOfFinance #401k #RetirementPlans #SaaS

    54 min
  • Owning the Friction: The 401Go Story | Dan Beck | Decoding Growth | EP 108

    Welcome to Decoding Growth, where unfiltered conversations and bold ideas are reshaping retirement. In this episode, hosts Lisa Kottler and Will Press sit down with Dan Beck, co-founder and CEO of 401GO, to explore how innovation, empathy, and a customer-first mindset are transforming the small business retirement market.

    While others talk about serving small employers, Dan and his team are actually doing it. From tackling legacy systems to designing technology that reduces friction and humanizes finance, this episode breaks down what it truly means to modernize an industry that’s been slow to evolve.

    If you’ve ever wondered why so many small businesses still struggle to offer 401(k) plans — and what it takes to fix that — this conversation is your roadmap.


    ⏱ Timestamps

    00:00 – Welcome to Decoding Growth: The new playbook for retirement innovation

    00:33 – Introducing Dan Beck, co-founder and CEO of 401GO

    01:40 – From e-commerce to fintech: Dan’s journey into retirement innovation

    03:08 – The origin story: when solving his own 401(k) problem sparked a startup

    05:20 – Why curiosity drives entrepreneurship and change

    07:14 – Lessons from e-commerce: reducing friction and building better experiences

    10:08 – Understanding the small business pain point — why complexity kills adoption

    13:22 – How 401GO’s “own the friction” philosophy reshapes advisor relationships

    16:18 – Building for small businesses: empathy over industry jargon

    18:45 – Real-life impact: helping employees save their first dollar

    21:10 – Human design + tech innovation: the secret to long-term engagement

    25:04 – Redefining advisor partnerships and distribution models

    29:28 – Why automation and relationships must coexist

    32:00 – The danger of legacy thinking and the power of outside perspective

    35:46 – Bootstrapping vs. venture capital: building for growth with integrity

    38:25 – Lessons on innovation from startups and legacy firms

    42:14 – How big companies and fintechs can collaborate instead of compete

    46:00 – Innovation inside risk-averse industries: how to make it work

    50:27 – The mindset shift: experimentation, autonomy, and innovation

    55:19 – What incumbents can learn from startups — and vice versa

    59:00 – The surprising truth: this industry wants to change

    1:02:00 – Closing reflections: curiosity, empathy, and the future of 401(k)s


    💡 Key Takeaways

    • “Own the friction” — make complexity your responsibility, not your client’s.

    • Real innovation starts with solving real problems, not chasing shiny tech.

    • Empathy + automation = sustainable business transformation.

    • Small businesses deserve better access, clarity, and care in financial services.

    • The retirement industry is ready to evolve — it just needs better tools.


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    Because innovation isn’t about technology — it’s about courage, curiosity, and care. 💬🚀

    54 min
  • Peopled's Bold Bet on Hyper-Personalized Benefits | Anthony Bunnell and Tom Bishop | EP107

    Welcome to Decoding Growth — where unfiltered conversations and bold ideas are reshaping the future of retirement and benefits.


    In this episode, hosts Lisa Kottler and Will Prest sit down with Anthony Bunnell and Tom Bishop, co-founders of Peopled, to unpack how their company is building the new front door for employee benefits. With backgrounds as executives and startup founders, Anthony and Tom bring unique insights into how AI, personalization, and trust can transform how employees engage with their benefits.

    From solving the problem of benefits confusion to reimagining the advisor’s role in an AI-driven world, this episode cuts through the noise to reveal what true innovation looks like in financial wellness.


    ⏱ Timestamps

    00:00 – Welcome to Decoding Growth

    01:15 – Meet the co-founders of Peopled

    04:10 – The problem Peopled is solving in the benefits space

    07:45 – How AI is transforming employee engagement

    10:32 – “The new front door” for benefits explained

    14:55 – Hyper-personalization and trust in financial decisions

    19:40 – Scaling the advisor relationship through technology

    24:05 – Why alignment—not assets—should define industry success

    29:12 – Lessons learned from past startups and regulated industries

    33:25 – Building partnerships with recordkeepers and healthcare providers

    37:58 – The real future of integration and collaboration

    42:10 – Final thoughts: redefining success in financial services


    🎧 Tune in to explore how “Peopled” is using technology to help individuals make smarter, more confident financial decisions—one conversation at a time.


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    52 min
  • Break Away from the Herd with Nevin Adams | Decoding Growth | EP106

    Welcome to Decoding Growth, where unfiltered conversations and bold ideas are reshaping the future of retirement. In this episode, hosts Lisa Kottler and Will Prest sit down with legendary industry voice Nevin Adams to explore how innovation, regulation, and human behavior intersect in retirement—and where the industry must go next.




    Nevin shares candid insights on fiduciary risk, the evolving role of AI, financial wellness, and the human side of innovation. Packed with wisdom, humor, and real talk, this conversation challenges old assumptions and inspires fresh thinking about what’s possible in financial services.




    ⏱️ Timestamps




    00:00 – Welcome to Decoding Growth

    00:37 – Why challenge the status quo matters in retirement innovation

    02:24 – Introducing Nevin Adams: a voice of reason and change

    03:16 – The legal lens: how regulation shapes progress

    07:15 – AI and the future of retirement services

    10:08 – Guardrails, compliance, and the evolution of trust in AI

    13:16 – Personalization and financial wellness at scale

    15:47 – Generational shifts and comfort with digital tools

    18:14 – Convergence and new business models

    21:12 – The real fear around money and financial conversations

    23:16 – Underappreciated ideas and the future of access

    27:13 – Retirement income, defaults, and the language of innovation

    31:01 – Education gaps and financial literacy challenges

    33:28 – Connecting technology, trust, and incremental learning

    35:01 – How to bring innovators and legacy institutions together

    37:19 – Where the industry should focus next

    40:19 – Improving access, participation, and outcomes

    45:22 – Making retirement transitions easier and smarter

    49:00 – Nevin reflects on impact, influence, and legacy

    53:46 – The kindest lessons and leaders who shaped his path

    57:39 – Closing thoughts: why this work truly matters

    58:13 – Subscribe and stay connected with Decoding Growth




    🎙️ About the Show


    Decoding Growth goes beyond the headlines to reveal the strategies, partnerships, and technologies transforming retirement. Each episode brings together voices driving change and creating a more innovative, inclusive future for the industry.




    👉 Subscribe for more conversations that challenge convention, inspire leadership, and spark real growth.


    #DecodingGrowth #NevinAdams #RetirementInnovation #AIinFinance #FinancialWellness #Fintech #PodcastEpisode

    59 min
  • The 4% Problem: Fixing Financial Wellness | Liz Davidson and Todd Lacey| Decoding Growth | EP 105

    Financial wellness pioneer Liz Davidson, founder of Financial Finesse, and president Todd Lacey join Lisa Kottler and Will Prest to decode the most misunderstood category in workplace retirement. 


    With 15 companies on their tech map but countless definitions, they explore what financial wellness really means, why only 4% of people are truly "financially well," and how the industry must shift from product-first to participant-first thinking. 


    Learn why, with financial coaching, healthcare claims have been shown to drop by 4.5% (compared to rising 19.4% without it), and why speaking in English (not industry jargon) might be retirement's biggest innovation opportunity.


    CHAPTERS:

    0:00 Introduction & The Retirement Tech Map

    3:15 Defining Financial Wellness

    8:45 Todd's Journey to Financial Finesse

    12:30 The Unbiased Coaching Model

    17:20 Measuring Success: Healthcare Claims Data

    23:45 Beyond the 401(k): Breaking Down Silos

    29:10 Platform vs. Point Solutions

    34:25 Personalization & AI Innovation

    40:15 Evaluating Financial Wellness Providers

    46:30 The Engagement Challenge

    51:40 Starting with the End User

    56:20 Speaking English: The Innovation Gap

    59 min
  • Big Brands, Bold Moves: David Musto on the Next Era of Retirement

    In this episode of Decoding Growth, hosts Lisa Kottler and Will Prest sit down with David Musto, Chair & CEO of Ascensus, to explore the bold moves shaping the future of retirement. With over three decades of leadership across J.P. Morgan, Prudential, Great-West, and now Ascensus, David brings a rare perspective on how big brands can innovate, adapt, and lead at scale.

    49 min
  • How Legal Strategy Fuels RetireTech Growth

    Join hosts Lisa Kottler and Will Prest as they dive deep into the legal and compliance landscape shaping retirement technology innovation with ERISA attorney Bonnie Treichel. This episode explores practical strategies for navigating the complex regulatory environment while fostering collaboration between legacy firms and emerging RetireTech companies.

    Bonnie brings a unique perspective as both an attorney and operator, running two firms while staying at the forefront of industry innovation. From her upcoming book "Your Retirement Sketchbook" to her insights on partnership structures, this conversation reveals how smart legal strategy can accelerate rather than hinder RetireTech growth.


    Your Retirement Sketchbook: 125 Retirement Planning Lessons from Financial Experts: https://www.amazon.com/Your-Retirement-Sketchbook-Planning-Financial/dp/1804091952/ref=sr_1_1?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.IYgUDFBD_ZLNwrEnxXZLr1rmQBAEiU2s3nc9YgrwQeMJk6oj5PpfJWCbJQtr7BhYWY7gNZrNmRhtXTFYELwD16TiUhF3qX6zXHj_6z6TVVm53f-EGHFcgbWv-IK5WL7QU65_FsMv7Ri3xQzVIH280GwgqcHNZEx9btrjhAnHYw_HQVAcAHfA1M3N3q1j0gWEB-H-Epz80JRYzDzrhOSOhOodqVJaNeWaVRp3l8I1-1M.KsBEMeSH1H6MnwwhTjIMdfIryJ0FK_OUGyi3GZTBaVI&dib_tag=se&hvadid=713542018012&hvdev=c&hvexpln=67&hvlocphy=9059583&hvnetw=g&hvocijid=16771137218294878157--&hvqmt=e&hvrand=16771137218294878157&hvtargid=kwd-2438321451310&hydadcr=22566_13730726&keywords=your+retirement+sketchbook&mcid=5de30c2c70a0346eb1457cfd6f746d0d&qid=1758660146&sr=8-1

    43 min

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Decoding Growth takes you inside the evolving world of retirement, uncovering the business models, go-to-market strategies, and unexpected partnerships transforming the…