Join Alicen and Hillary as they host their very first guest - one of Alicen’s favorite people - Elizabeth Spale. They talk about our well-intended expectations of blending our careers with motherhood, making career changes for motherhood, and the power in taking ownership for those decisions. In the spirit of career development and demonstrating a growth-mindset, you’ll also get to hear Alicen put herself on a performance improvement plan!

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