Hello, hello, and welcome to another episode of the Red Couch Theology podcast. Hey, this week, I'm having a conversation with Jessica Rust, who brought our message on Sunday, and we're talking about this deep abiding hope that expands far beyond the little hopes that we might have for this season and actually is a hope we can bank on. We also spent a little bit of time talking about some of the other advent resources that she encountered this season so that you can hear someone other than just Fleming Rutledge from Alex and I. So let's dive right in.