Deep Ish

In this week's episode of Deep Ish, Jake sits down with country singer songwriter Christan Parker.We talk about the strange intersection between law and creativity, how becoming a lawyer actually changed the way Christian thinks, and what happens when that analytical brain collides with songwriting.Christian also opens up about moving to Nashville, building an independent music career, being told by producers that he wasn’t worth their time, and hearing the words, “come back when you’re bigger.”Sometimes it’s deep. Sometimes it’s just ish.Presented by GrnHaus Media

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This week on Deep Ish, Clay Barker joins Jake to talk about his unconventional path into music — from playing drums in Christian metal bands and nearly pursuing physical therapy school to becoming a Nashville songwriter and country artist.Clay opens up about moving to Nashville, navigating the uncertainty of COVID, learning how to write alongside hit songwriters, and the years it took to find a sound that actually felt like him.They also get into the realities of chasing a creative career, the role of talent, luck, and timing, why persistence matters, and the difference between pursuing fame and building a life you're proud of.Plus, a conversation about country music, songwriting, Clay's upcoming music, and what success really looks like ten years from now.Sometimes it's deep, sometimes it's just ish.Presented by GrnHaus MediaFollow Clay: https://claybarkerofficial.com/https://www.instagram.com/claybarker_musichttps://youtube.com/@claybarkerofficialhttps://tiktok.com/@claybarkerofficialhttps://www.facebook.com/claybarkerofficialhttps://x.com/claybarkermusicFollow Deep Ish:https://www.instagram.com/deep.ishpodcast/https://www.tiktok.com/@deep.ishpodcasthttps://www.facebook.com/deep.ishpodcastFollow Jake:https://www.instagram.com/jdotlawhttps://www.tiktok.com/@jdotlawhttps://x.com/jdotlawhttps://www.facebook.com/jdotlaw

In this week's episode of Deep Ish, Jake sits down with business owner, podcast host & producer, Alex Lagos. Alex has spent years behind some of the biggest conversations in podcasting, producing shows like Bussin’ With The Boys, Just Being Ernest, Net Positive, and more, and building his own company, Lagos Creative. But this conversation goes way beyond how to make a podcast grow.Alex breaks down what actually separates a podcast that lasts from one that flames out: building a brand ecosystem instead of a single show, why he's fine with competitors winning (as long as he's still trying to win), and what happens when a podcast gets big enough to start feeling like a TV show instead. We get into the Barstool blueprint, why "all-star personalities" owe it to themselves to start a podcast, and Alex relaunching his own show Creative Control. They also talk about competition, failure, baseball, business, Nashville’s creative community, faith, family, and the unpredictable future of media.Sometimes it's deep, sometimes it's just ish.Presented by GrnHaus MediaFollow Alex: https://www.lagoscreative.co/https://www.instagram.com/mralexlagoshttps://youtube.com/@CreativeControlLChttps://tiktok.com/@mralexlagosFollow Deep Ish:https://www.instagram.com/deep.ishpodcast/https://www.tiktok.com/@deep.ishpodcasthttps://www.facebook.com/deep.ishpodcastFollow Jake:https://www.instagram.com/jdotlawhttps://www.tiktok.com/@jdotlawhttps://x.com/jdotlawhttps://www.facebook.com/jdotlaw

This week on Deep Ish, Jake sits down with singer-songwriter and former professional baseball player Bryan Ruby for a conversation about baseball, music, Nashville, taking risks, and knowing when it's time to turn the page.Bryan spent nearly two decades playing baseball, eventually playing professionally and continuing to pursue the game long after college. But while baseball was still his career, another dream was quietly taking shape. He moved to Nashville in 2019, started immersing himself in songwriting, carried his guitar with him on baseball trips, and eventually made the decision to leave baseball and pursue music full-time.We talk about what it was like to walk away from something he'd spent most of his life doing, why he chose to leave on his own terms, the years of grinding before anyone was paying attention, and why building something sustainable matters more than going viral overnight.Bryan also tells some incredible Nashville stories—including sneaking into a CMA party at 23, meeting songwriters, and eventually hearing a Chris Stapleton demo that completely changed the way he looked at the music business.Sometimes it's deep, sometimes it's just ish.Presented by GrnHaus MediaFollow Bryan: https://www.bryanrubymusic.com/https://www.instagram.com/bryanrubyofficialhttps://www.facebook.com/bryanrubyofficialhttps://tiktok.com/@bryanrubyofficial Follow Deep Ish:https://www.instagram.com/deep.ishpodcast/https://www.tiktok.com/@deep.ishpodcasthttps://www.facebook.com/deep.ishpodcastFollow Jake:https://www.instagram.com/jdotlawhttps://www.tiktok.com/@jdotlawhttps://x.com/jdotlawhttps://www.facebook.com/jdotlaw

In this episode, Jake sits down with Carolyn Miller. Carolyn spent her childhood on stages in New York — acting, singing, Broadway, TV, commercials, and voiceover work. By all accounts, she was already on the path she had dreamed about since she was a kid. Then, in her late 20s, everything changed.After years of pursuing acting, Carolyn had a realization that Nashville — and country music — was where she was supposed to be. Now, Carolyn is entering a new chapter — as an independent artist, a wife, and a mom — with her first major self-titled EP, Carolyn Miller.In this episode of Deep Ish, we talk about chasing a dream that doesn't necessarily make sense on paper, knowing when to change directions, starting over in your 20s, the reality of building a music career independently, motherhood, Nashville, and why sometimes the thing you're supposed to do isn't the thing you originally planned.Sometimes it’s deep. Sometimes it’s just ish.Presented by GrnHaus MediaFollow Carolyn: https://www.carolynmillermusic.com/https://www.instagram.com/carolynmillermusichttps://www.facebook.com/CarolynMillerMusichttps://tiktok.com/@carolynmillermusic https://x.com/carolyn_millerFollow Deep Ish:https://www.instagram.com/deep.ishpodcast/https://www.tiktok.com/@deep.ishpodcasthttps://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61577977080176Follow Jake:https://www.instagram.com/jdotlawhttps://www.tiktok.com/@jdotlawhttps://x.com/jdotlawhttps://www.facebook.com/jdotlaw

In this week's episode of Deep Ish, Jake sits down with Ava Claire. Ava has been writing songs since she was eight years old, playing shows around Nashville since she was 11, and somehow found herself auditioning for American Idol at 16. But the wildest part? She says she didn't even realize she was pursuing music until she was already doing it.In this episode, Ava talks about growing up in Nashville, learning to sing after being told she was basically tone deaf, the teachers and mentors who believed in her before she believed in herself, getting scouted for American Idol, surviving Hollywood Week, and what it's like trying to figure out your future while you're still in college.We also get into songwriting, sibling support, social media, her dream of playing the Ryman, Jason Isbell, and the pressure of being expected to know what you want to do with the rest of your life at 18.Sometimes it’s deep. Sometimes it’s just ish.Follow Ava Claire: https://avaclairemusic.com/https://www.instagram.com/avaclairemusichttps://www.facebook.com/avaclairemusichttps://tiktok.com/@avaclairemusic https://x.com/avaclairemusic Follow Deep Ish:https://www.instagram.com/deep.ishpodcast/https://www.tiktok.com/@deep.ishpodcasthttps://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61577977080176Follow Jake:https://www.instagram.com/jdotlawhttps://www.tiktok.com/@jdotlawhttps://x.com/jdotlawhttps://www.facebook.com/jdotlaw

In this week's episode of Deep Ish, Jake sits down with Zoe Jean Fowler for a conversation about leaving behind the version of her career she thought she was building, moving to Nashville, finding her voice as a country artist, and learning to trust who she actually is.

Zoe opens up about the transition from Christian music into country, the pressure to fit into a particular box, the reality of building a career in Nashville, and why authenticity has become so important to her as an artist.

They also get into “Written by a Woman,” songwriting, faith, friendships, growing up, and what Zoe would tell her 18-year-old self today.It’s a conversation about identity, creativity, faith, ambition, and figuring out what you actually want—even when everyone else thinks they know what you should do.

Sometimes it’s deep. Sometimes it’s just ish.

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In this episode, Jake sits down with Bonheur Vacations Co-Founder Jodie Kurtz and they dive into what it really looks like to chase purpose over comfort. After 22 years climbing the corporate ladder—including nearly a decade at Google—Jodie made the decision that most people only dream about. She walked away from stability, packed up her family, and moved to Florida to help build something from the ground up.

They talk about the fear of starting over, knowing when it's time to leave a career, betting on yourself, building a business from scratch, and creating a life you don't need a vacation from.

They also share why 30A feels like home, what makes unforgettable hospitality, and how Bonheur Vacations is reimagining the vacation experience through intentional service and genuine connection.

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In this special "poolside" solo edition of Deep Ish, Jake comes to you live (well, recorded live!) from a family vacation along Scenic Highway 30A. Between pool jumps and beach football, Jake reflects on a family tradition that’s lasted since he was five years old and why making time for family trips matters now more than ever.

Plus, Jake gets a surprise guest appearance from his son Roman, shares his love for local 30A spots like Goatfeathers Seafood Market, teases an upcoming interview with Jodie from Bonheur Vacations, and gives a sneak peek at what’s next for GrnHaus Media!This episode was recorded at "For the Shell of It" vacation home, with Bonheur Vacations.

You can find the house and their entire portfolio at https://www.bonheurvacations.com/, let them know you found them through Deep Ish.

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This week on Deep Ish, Jake sits down with country artist & winner of season 5 of For Love or Likes on the Outdoor Channel, Becca Bowen to talk about the unexpected road that led her from small-town South Carolina to Nashville. 

She went viral catching a 46-pound catfish with her bare hands... but that's only the beginning of the story. From winning a reality TV hunting competition during a hurricane, to writing songs inspired by heartbreak, to navigating faith after hitting rock bottom, Becca shares the moments that completely changed her life.

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