Jory and I go deep, and talk about the sometimes painful, dark moments we go through in our meditative journey (and in life), as the isolated, separate self and impermanent "realities" that we cling to, come tumbling down and show themselves for what they are: illusions that can give us no true and lasting contentment, security and happiness. We speak mainly from the Christian-mystic-framework, but sprinkle in insights from all over. 

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Methods is a free online podcast and teaching platform, hosted by Jory Pryor. Methods is designed to showcase the myriad ways in which we can engage with our ego, develop inner peace, and connect with the divine.