In this episode, Sarah skips the small talk and cannonballs straight into the deep end.

No warm-up laps. No shallow end theology. No polite transitions.

We talk about what it actually means to be deeply human not the curated version, not the platform version, not the “I’m fine” version —but the honest, complicated, embodied, sometimes uncomfortable version.

We wrestle with grief, joy, doubt, faith, identity, and the parts of ourselves we usually try to manage or hide. What does it mean to follow Jesus without pretending you’re less human? What does it look like to hold conviction and vulnerability at the same time?

Sarah gets serious quick.
We try to keep up.
And somewhere in the middle of it, we find grace.

This one isn’t surface-level.
It’s deeply human.