If you’re of a scientific persuasion, watching policy debates around Brexit, or climate change, or drug prohibition are likely to cause feelings of intense frustration about the dearth of evidence in those discussions.

In this podcast we're joined by Chris Bonell, professor of public health sociology - in this podcast he airs those frustrations, and worries that the rise of populism is pushing evidence even further out of policy decision.

Read the accompanying essay:

https://www.bmj.com/content/362/bmj.k3827