In this episode, host Dr. Kali Rubaii to discuss her recent article, co-authored with Dr. Mark Griffiths, titled, "Deferral and dispersal: The military violence of post-war clean-up," recently published in Human Organization. We discuss the logistics behind post-war clean up activities, the capitalist industries that crop up around them, and the ordinary people who perform this clean-up and as a result have a continued encounter with toxified air, soils, and water. Based on their fieldwork in Iraq, Dr. Rubaii illustrates the critical need for rethinking how we think about people's bodies in war, the materials that make up war, and the way we understand the time and space of war.