We talk about his ethnic heritage and identity, crypto asset investing, anti-trafficking work in Singapore, and humanitarian work with schools and refugees in East and North Africa. How does he reconcile the huge disconnect between, on one hand, poor communities who are far removed from technological advances like blockchain and decentralized finance and on the other hand, his belief in the latter as the future which he is staking his assets on. Can decentralized finance, governance and political action be the way to see poor populations into a better future?